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PlatENumbCracker

Your Family Tree Must have been Ratweed>

i dont know fuck

16 years ago, April 30, 2003
bearskinrug

Man - those are some ugly mugs!

randy

This is the second image in a row I’ve seen with a bit of a pixelation problem. I like the frames, the pictures, etc… But the background looks like it lost some clarity by being resized upwards. Unique idea, I know a few people that could make it into this DSNLG (not me though, because I’m pretty, at least, my mom said…).

bharper

randy, i know you aint talking about my CLUE. Shit aint pixelated. Didnt do any resizing, or upsizing.. nothin.

But, i think i see what u mean with the background / table being a bit ovesized…

randy, is that your momma in the top left? she’s cute!

jeromius

randy is talkin’ smack about everyone’s work these days. I’ll rough him up at work today.

2one2

hey Platy- i don’t think your girlfriend is going to be happy that you posted her picture on the internet…

bharper

are you guys the presidents of uglypeople.com, or are you just members?

inman

Where are you going with this? I’m really not impressed. Have you ever tried designing sober?

creighton

I have to agree with Inman. This DNSLG seems, after only the first image, to be moving in a direction that is meant to pander to our basest emotions.

Can there really be a ‘discussion’ about very ugly people? Will it be a contest to see who can top the other with the wildest google search result? I know that there are sites devoted to hosting imagery such as this — forums where people post supposedly amusing pictures of less fortunate people (many the result of a disease or brain damage).

I have never cared for such sites, and I never thought I’d see something like this on DSNLG…my comment is this:

This is simply childish.

Or if you think it isn’t, prove me wrong.

randy

I’m just trying to be a bit more honest with my posts. I hate when people sweep in, drop a vote down, and sweep out without smacking down a word… I like when you rough me up Jeromius, it ain’t no thang…

bharper

i think this dsnlg walks a fine line. we can all apreciate the humor of these ugly people, but based on the shape of their heads, its also clear that they have had some serious misfrutne, a disease, or tumor. So, its a bit harsh to laugh at them. Maybe there is a way to alter the content of the proceeding images so that it is not insulting to those less fortunate. It will be interesting to see how you guys handle this.

Randy: I dont take issue with your “honesty” i just take issue with the accuracy of your statement. I dont see what you mean by pixelated. If you wanna explain it, that would be cool.

jeromius

I’ll have to agree with everyone above (inman, creighton,etc…) - this isn’t exactly designologue material. In fact, it’s one of the lamer themes I’ve seen.

Unless this theme goes a different direction, I don’t expect much out of it.

Just watch - everyone who criticized this log will end up having their photo on the wall in image 2.

tacosaurus

I think it is pretty funny.

No one said that Design was immune to degenerate conversation. For all those people out there who are so sensitive, LIGHTEN UP. I think the contrast of elegance and ugliness is very interesting. It is almost as if these Ugly people actually got something accomplished. There are nice frames, even GOLD, on the walls. A nice glass table with wrought iron. Why do you people have to have pity, they seem as though they are being exhalted. There IS such a thing as bourgeois ugly people. I have met quite a few in my day. Tacosaurus.

inman

That’s a nice read Taco, but the comment associated with the image doesn’t really back that up… “Your Family Tree Must have been Ratweed”

Sigh. For this I spent a year redeveloping Designologue.

tacosaurus

Who said Ratweed, wasn’t RICH PEEPS.

I know plenty of ratweed rich ugly people. Doesn’t mean I make designs of them, but somebody has to do it.

Everything has been done, and the future is already happening.

You don’t like this image, but it has already been made. The future of this image, will be its passing. So on and so forth until the end of time. LETS ALL CELEBRATE>

I WANNA GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO MY BOY JESSIE> IN LOCKDOWN ON SOME DRUG CHARGES> BIG UPS JESSIE! Nobodys as ugly as you baby! NOBODY!

Tacosaurus, tears roll down cheeks.

bharper

Taco. I think you could be right. And i thin we may all be a bit sensitive. But, i think the reaction is not to the potential outcome of the image, but rather the Intention of the image. We have to trust that Plat E’s intention was something other then to simply trash these people for being ugly. And given his contribution thus far, i think its safe to say that his intent doesnt go much beyond shock value.

PlatENumbCracker

uGLY PEOPLE sUCK, iF YOU REDNECKED FOLKS WOULDnt INBREED I WOULDNT BE TORTURING YOUR HIPPY SOULS

“DONT MAKE FUN OF RETARDS, UGLIES OR FATS, IT IS NOT NICE AND I DONT THINK YOU WOULD BE VERY HAPPY IF YOUR WERE AS RETARDED UGLY AND FAT AS I AM”. I am quoting you, but who is you

creighton

^— I rest my case.

PlatENumbCracker

i DONT DO DESIGNOLOGUES SOBER i GO TO WORK SOBER i AM CHILDISH, YES THATS WHY MY BOSS PAYS ME 30$ HOUR TO MAKE PORNO WEBSITES OF YOUR MOM

AKS YOUR DAD ABOUT HIS CRACK HABIT, IT PAID FOR MY CAR

PS IS ANYONE HERE FAMOUS? HMMMPH THATS FUNNY

I HAVE NOT YET BREACHED SHOCK VALUE, I CAN DISGUST SHOCK AND AWE ALL OF YOU, iT IS THE AMERICAN WAY

wELL WHEN MY ALBUM COMES OUT NEXT YEAR PLEASE DONT BUY IT, i WOULD HATE TO HAVE TO HEAR WHAT YOU SAY, WHEN I CAN GO AS FAR AS I FEEL.

uGLY PEOPLE, HAHAHAHAH FAT PEOPLE THEY EAT ALOT Yo Mamma is so stupid, she got hit by a parked car. Yo Mamma is so stupid, she had Dan Quayle check her spelling. Yo Mamma is so stupid, she jumped out the window and went up. Yo Mamma is so stupid, she needed a tutor to learn how to scribble. Yo Mamma is so stupid, she ordered her sushi well done. Yo Mamma is so stupid, she ordered a cheese burger from McDonald’s and said “Hold the cheese.” Yo Mamma is so stupid, she married Yo daddy. Yo Mamma is so stupid, she invented a solar powered flashlight. Yo Mamma is so stupid, she got shot running to the border after seeing a Taco Bell commercial. Yo Mamma is so stupid, she got hit by a cup and told the police that she got mugged. Yo Mamma is so ugly, she didn’t get hit with the ugly stick, she got hit with the ugly log. Yo Mamma is so ugly, she gives Freddy Kreuger nightmares. Yo Mamma is so ugly, she could scare the flies off a shit wagon. Yo Mamma is so ugly, she has a sign in her yard that says “Beware of Dog.” Yo Mamma is so ugly, she could scare the moss off a rock! Yo Mamma is so ugly, she has 7 years bad luck just trying to look at herself in the mirror. Yo Mamma is so ugly, she could only be Yo mamma. Yo Mamma is so ugly, she got a sex change and the surgeon had to flip a coin. Yo Mamma is so ugly, she gets 364 extra days to dress up for Halloween. Yo Mamma is so ugly, she could scare the chrome off a bumper!

PlatENumbCracker

i JUST DONT CARE

bharper

of course you care. otherwise you wouldnt be here. and you wouldnt tell us about your record album.

tacosaurus

Is that the lady you were talking about. THAT SHIT IS TOO FUNNY! I’m talking about Transformative Erotica? CRAZY PSALMS NEXT TO EROTICA? That lady is loony.

And I think she is quite beautiful at the same time… chuckle. Tacosaurus.

inman

Hahaha, Plat-E cares! I think you joined too late plate. The dino with a taste for Mexican has already won our hearts with his colorful shock and awe verbosity and trendy “I don’t care what you think of me”-attitude - yours can’t help but taste like leftover scrapple.

Designologue is rubber and you are glue…

tacosaurus

Give my man a break there Inman. He is cool, he’s just crackuh-fyed-gankstuh steeze. With computer electronic nerdery. Nah meens. I think his shit is pretty funny.

If you look at his deffinition of Vurp.

I Violently Undermined Real Peoples Educated Design,

that was his point. Tacosaurus.

He be gettin’ violents. in a joking manner.

inman

Yeah, ain’t I a bitch…

A shock to the system is good once in a while but I won’t nurture it. The goal is to build a community worth visiting. If the site was full of a bunch of sophomoric designologues like this, even I wouldn’t come back too often.

And don’t ask me to chill on your brotha when his intent was to elicit this kind of response.

bgmccollum

wasn’t there a review process? who accepted him? is it automated? are there multiple people that review applications? and there is always the strike/rating system…so the lowest of low will probably never get seen.

bharper

no, we shouldnt sensor PlatE. he just needs to tone it down a bit..

we dont need to be exclusive, or exclude people.. i think now that we have voiced the issue.. its up to PlatE to make the next move..

im with you bro..

we can build this shit..

tacosaurus

Whatever. This site needs many different perspectives. Let him develop, this one looks much better than the ones before. He is getting his photoshop skeelz back. nah mean. True dart. Everyone has some sort of potential.

Tacosaurus Frets.

PlatENumbCracker

TAKE A JOKE. dO YOU THINK I AM BEING SERIOUS WITH MY STATEMENTS. iF YOU GUYS DIDNT MAKE IT SO FUNNY TO BE OFFENSIVE, I WOULD GET ANY FUN OUT OF IT.

JOKES.

i DID THE ONE OFF DESIGNS AND THOUGHT THEY WHERE QUITE IMPRESSIVE. hAVE YOU ALL READ MY PROFILE. IT EXPLAINS THIS ALL TOO WELL, GET SOME INSITE ON WHO I AM.

now for real, would you like me to try to be more of a serious gentleman, kinda like when i go to eat with my grandparents.

If i have someway cheapened your creation, for that i do appologize. i will make a valiant attempt to put up some good work. Maybe i wont smoke a blunt by myself before i do the next piece.

but you gotta ask me to be a nice guy or i dont know to be a nice to you.

Bharper you are right i do care. A great deal.

This designologue will go somewhere, you must understand that i am setting the basis for a personal conversation with an artist that i know understands where i am going.

2on2, tell them.

That lady is crazy. You see what i do at work, the people i work with. The bitch takes lithium. Crazy wears off on people.

PlatENumbCracker

thanks bharper. I shouldn’t be censored, and i should tone it down. Next topic will be serious. A few jokes didnt hurt that much, i think i made my entrance quite well, I dont think their is a member on designologue that has heard the rumors of Bemor Bolo da King o Bling, aka Plat-E-Numb_Cracker.

But also keep this in mind, if my style seems crued, prolly cause it is. I am a 3d art/sound. not a graphic designer. and have no intention to be, that is you guys right.

I need a serious topic to be serious.

inman

You don’t have to fret about being censored Plate-tectonics - although my mouse did hover over the strike button initially…but for what? I’ll repeat what I told you regarding your first designologue image - given your choice of topics you’ll probably continue to recieve these types of outburst if you don’t provide a little more commentary with your image.

BG, screening is one vouch only. I have a feeling the dino left the door open. Come on, Taco - were you raised in a Prehistoric Barn™? (Not trying to make you feel unwelcome Plat_num-Blonde.onBlonde() just teasing the Terrible ‘Zilla of Ground Beef)

PlatENumbCracker

thanks, He did leave the door opened, and i brought my dog who has fleas into your house. now everyone is itching with hatred for the Plat-e. But for real I won’t keep pissing over that borderline you guys keep talking about. joke, dont take that the wrong way. I have found this site to be quite entertaining, and do hope you have gotten some amusement from my comentary

I think i have alot of the artist turning thier backs on me. No one will prolly ever initiate a designologue with me, beside Taco. teehee joking again. I need to keep my mouth shut, but i have had a problem with that ever since i was diagnosed with A.D.D. rambling mind rambling mouth.

PlatENumbCracker

Lets just see where 2on2 goes with this. I should explain it more. But….. I cant seem to get my fingers to cooperate.

But tell me really are my one off designs that bad. Am i just a disgrace to the word photoSlop. What do you think

tacosaurus

Next image Inman posts, I am going to motion to strike. Teheheh. chuckle unda’ da’ buckle. Tacosaurus floats the Boast.

PlatENumbCracker

taco initiate a designologue with me, something serious and legit, i have rescue my rep. Shit i dont know you got any ideas.

I want to do a pinball wizard theme or something flashy with potential. i joke to much for the majority

Oh and i gave myself a one on this piece too

RevDrLuv

I am the one who voted taco on to this site. And if you didn’t vote Plat-E in taco, I think that was me too.

A regular Pandora’s box, that was… :D

PlatENumbCracker

you voted me in rev. thanks to whomever did

RevDrLuv

Yeah I am pretty sure it was me. Hey if anyone is stubborn enough to jump through through inman’s screening hoops then they deserve some recognition. I feel like the whole screening process is there just to be discouraging enough to keep out those people who would not really be into what we are doing here. We don’t need trolls lurking about with the sole purpose of pissing everyone off, and I have been on many a forum full of just such people. While I do think you and taco are on a “Shock & Awe” campaign of sorts, I don’t think you are on here just to be assholes. So your welcome… :D

PlatENumbCracker

True Rev. you keep preaching, my only intention was not to piss everyone off but to get everyones attention. the screening process may have alot to do the fact you have gotten taco and I so hype on making a ruckuss. The questionaire just set me up to be a monster. But i am just a cuddly cracker.

PlatENumbCracker

i have heard many nice things about the next piece.

2one2

sooo… i see that its a few of the new members that seem to causing tumultuous waves of discontent amongst the elders of the designologue clan. strike or be striked.(not a threat… but just a thought that has crossed many a designologuers mind) murmurs and whispers plant the seeds of disdain. whats’ next, change? growth? order? unity? i liked creighton’s suggestion about the single image/which can be changed by anyone at anytime. (i knew way back in speech class that he’d come up with a good idea sooner or later) but that’s neither here nor there.

as for this dsnlg… and the theme, i can understand why it would anger some (if not most) people. what are we trying to accomplish here? harken to the days when traveling “freak shows” mosey’d around this vast countryside exploiting those who were born looking different. they still exist but now its the “freaks” themselves that are in charge (the way it should be). they went from being EXPLOITED to just BEING. how often do you pick up a copy of JANE or GQ or COSMOgirl, or whatever your major publication of choice is, and see one of these people’s faces grace the pages? not enough to consider it significant, because society is too busy telling you and showing you what beautiful is. beauty is LOREAL, beauty is VICTORIA’s SECRET, beauty is CHANNEL, beauty is SLIM FAST, etc etc etc. We are told it isn’t nice to point these people out, to stare, or to make fun of them. But by society showing off the “beautiful” person with the “beautiful” image they carry with themselves, its just another slap in the face to these people that they will never (scratch that) CAN NEVER live up to that. and if that isn’t talking behind that back… i don’t know what is. These people ARE and these people WILL ALWAYS BE. that is what you must accept. they will not go away, no matter how much you ignore them. that is something my next image deals with, sort of how we are taught not to point them out but still can’t resist focusing on them. ( and it completely scraps this image )

2one2

sketchy cartoon style… if any of these “ugly people” bother you - then that’s your f’n problem!

16 years ago, May 2, 2003
RevDrLuv

We still see these people on TV. They are on The Jerry Springer Show, Cheaters, Blind Date, Judge Joe Brown, etc… so we can all laugh and point and think “wow, at least I am not that poor sap!”

If your rant is a clue as to the direction your taking this conversation I applaud you. I think people were just skeptical of what the concept was behind this piece (or if it had any at all), and not without reason. Plat-E gave little explanation for this image, he is new so nobody knows how he works and one of his only other images so far is that of bushykins with a coke moustache staring at an enlarged member… (which, I found out the other night, is actually funny if you are completely trashed).

I don’t think anyone is really upset. They just wanted some explanations, and when they are not given, people assume that means there are none to give.

I am pretty sure that this image is a set-up for something interesting. On it’s own it doesn’t mean much, but it will once we see the rest.

RevDrLuv

looks like you beat me to it.

bharper

yeah.. this is better. i loke how you poke fun at the seriousness of the posts in the conversation between father and daughter… i like the cartoonish style… i like it.

2one2

yes it is true… todays daytime talkshows {ie JerrySpringer, JennyJones, Ricky, etc.} have taken the place of the traveling freak shows of yesteryear. television has filled the need to travel from town to town when nationally syndicated shows can be beemed all over the world if the powers that be want to. i wonder how proud the advertisers are to have their commercials playing during and paying for these shows, and how long before their conscience catches up with them… i guess for as long as lazy, under-achieving american’s are willing to sit and watch it

jeromius

good social message in this image. That one dude looks like a mutated Ron Jeremy. Wacky.

Lincoln

what conscience? the advertisers aren’t too classy in the first place. I remember nights back when I worked at WGSA, savannah’s local trash affiliate, when every single commercial break during Springer would have a Girls Gone Wild ad… those were the days. complain about your job if you will, but you don’t know the psychological ramifications that develop when your shift begins AND ends with Springer

2one2

word to your mother nick.

RevDrLuv

What about when you work at a TV station and your sift begins at 4am and ends at 9am. Then you have to go back for a 3pm-7pm. And that is only if therr is no weather or major event. Damn that sucked.

jeromius

Springer and GGW - did you work in a trailer like I did for two summers?

I used to work production for a local entertainment company, and between shifts, we would sit in this trailer watching this 9 inch black and white set that only got one station. Worked the 10pm to 8am shift, it blowed in a major way.

One thing this image is missing is midgets. You need more midgets. Or conjoined twins. If you’re going to make a freakshow out of this, you might as well add that in somehow. Ever see those conjoined twins on the talk shows? You know the ones - one wants to be a country singer and wheels around on a chair.

Aarseth

A beautiful drawing with one problem—You read the dad’s bubble first, because it’s on top. His should be below the girl’s since he’s replying to her question.

Contrary to popular belief, this ‘Logue might have some redeeming social value after all! Way to show ‘em.

randy

This comes a bit late in the debate but… There’s a lot of “Very Ugly People” that are “beautiful” physically. Say, Paris Hilton… I mean people that are horrible, moral-less twats and deserve to be labeled ugly (amongst other things). I just don’t believe this DSNLG should be condemned dreadful until the players have a chance to experiment with different facets of ugly.

PlatENumbCracker

sorry for absense i was playing video games, yes the whole time. i love the image i am gonna let this one bake for a second and plan out something. so hang in their i am easily distracted.

bearskinrug

What did you draw this with, 2one2?

glorymachine

hmmm

keep passing this DSLNG and still do not know what to say……

Still thinking and watching…..

bharper

thats not a drawing, its a digital picture of his neighbors..

2one2

i used my BiC round stic Grip med. black ink pen.

i drew 3 separate images on 3 separate pieces of paper {the “ugly” clan; the father/daughter; the text boxes}, scanned the images individually{b/w}, pieced them together in photochop, then colorized.

ps… not my neighbors; more like remnants of my family tree.

PlatENumbCracker

Ugly and beauty are impliments of our distorted perception manipulated through mass media influence. Tv made ugly, beauty, style. Should we follow the mindless masses.

Or is Ugly just ugly

16 years ago, May 8, 2003
PlatENumbCracker

guess i should check spelling next time. oh well

ohsoquiet

didn’t even notice the spelling flub til you mentioned it.

fashionvictim

Okay, everyone here already knows I am a spelling freak, and because your spelling error is so obvious (it’s in the most important text for god sakes) I gave you a two.

I can let it slide if it’s in small type or in an area not obvious, but it just looks careless.

Other than that I thought this was a good continuation, I maybe would have liked to see what you said in your post in your design more. The idea of media shaping our perception of ugly.

bgmccollum

reminds me of that fine line of beauty you see in girls. is it a unique attractive quality that keeps you looking at her, or is she just ugly? and you never ask your friends for fear of persecution.

i gave it a 3. i didnt notice the spelling till you mentioned it, but i speed read. its definately better than the first image of yours. some goofy type treatment. kerning vs. word spacing needs tweaking. and the space in the right lense of the glasses, i would have liked to see that cut out. thats all.

PlatENumbCracker

spelling was never my forté. but i was more obsessed with the idea. I put some thought into this, but uploaded hastily. But finally i am getting better ratings. But i think i found a way to relay my message without compramising my own personal agenda.

bharper

ugly? that guy is beautiful.

PlatENumbCracker

everybody handing out low ratings but dont want to explain themselves. You people must be the Ugly Silent Type. Am I Right. I See how the Non-Participating Croud that seems to Lurk and Discrimi-hate on my type truly works. If you are gonna shit on me at least have the balls to sign the Stank Ass Turd you call your art

oops am i drunk again

Bemor Bolo

ps Please somebody provoke me, I am getting bored.